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From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: NCSA telnet vs Kermit (Was: Kermit Scripts)
Date: 17 Nov 1994 15:13:54 GMT
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In article <3af6pi$1iq@infosrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de>,
Peter Schmolck <p41bsmk@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de> wrote:
>jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) writes:
>
>
>>Question: Could someone please explain to me what it is that NCSA Telnet
>>provides that MS-DOS Kermit and/or C-Kermit do not provide?
>I'm interested in that question, too, since I'm going to change from
>serial-to-terminal-server to full TCP/IP connection shortly. At the
>moment I have nearly no practice with Kermit's telnet but some practice
>with NCSA telnet.
>
>The advantages of NCSA telnet I am aware of, are:
>
>* Copy/Paste function implemented; in Kermit I need Windows to do that.
Understood. This functionality is available in C-Kermit for OS/2 but not
MS-DOS Kermit.
>* ftp: This does not necessitate to start a server program at the remote
> computer (if that is a PC it just needs to be in a NCSA telnet
> session with ftp allowed). One cannot do anonymous ftp from the PC
> with Kermit (right?)
Well, of course a server is required. You just don't have to start it.
But if the server daemon (ftpd) is not running you won't be able to perform
any file transfers at all. But of course you can't perform an anonymous
ftp with Kermit. Most tcp/ip stacks come with an ftp program though.
However, for remote transfers from the PC, Kermit can always be placed in
Server mode.
>There are *many* advantages of Kermit, of course, like superb terminal
>emulations, automatic character-translations, etc. And, compared to ftp,
>Kermit filetransfer has also advantages I specifically appreciate: It
>can transfer the time stamps, and with "file collision update" (new for
>MS-Kermit in Version 3.14) I can easily update backup copies of
>multiple files on different computers.
Correct.
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